Interview by Scott Hill
Awarded Amazon.com's best computer book of 1998, the same year it was
published,Information
Architecture for the World Wide Web has become a classic in its field
and a respected reference for Web-site and intranet developers in general.
Information Architecture helps you understand the foundations of
the field: organizing, labeling, navigating, and searching information. The
book also places information architecture within the broader context of
Web-site development, from research to conceptual design to production; and
it provides practical advice to help get you through that process.
Scott Hill interviewed Louis Rosenfeld and Peter Morville, pioneers
in the field, about their book and their work.
The Field of Information Architecture
Hill:
For those not familiar with the field, how would you define information
architecture?
Rosenfeld:
Information architecture involves the design of organization, labeling,
navigation, and searching systems to help people find and manage information
more successfully.
Organization systems are the ways content can be grouped. Labeling systems
are essentially what you call those content groups. Navigation systems, like
navigation bars and site maps, help you move around and browse through the
content. Searching systems help you formulate queries that can be matched
with relevant documents.
For each of these systems, there is much more than meets the eye. If this
wasn't the case, it would be a lot easier for users to find what they're
looking for in web sites (and it'd be easier to maintain those sites, to
boot).
Hill:
What are the major problems Web-site users encounter that information
architecture addresses?
Morville:
On most large web sites and intranets today, users have tremendous
problems finding the information they need to make decisions and answer
questions. This is a huge source of frustration for users.
It is also a very expensive problem for web site producers. In a recent
study of major e-commerce web sites, Creative Good, a Web consulting
and research company, found that 39% of shopping attempts failed due to poor
navigation. This suggests an estimated $6 billion loss in online retail sales
during the 1999 holiday season.
Hill:
Why is it so hard to find information on the Web, and why aren't search
engines more helpful?
Rosenfeld:
It's a simple case of the Web taking something that was already really
hard and making it a lot harder. Information scientists were studying
information system performance long before the Web was a sparkle in Tim
Berners-Lee's eye. [Editor's note: Tim Berners-Lee invented the Hypertext
Transfer Protocol, or HTTP.] They've known for years that users had a terrible
time finding the information they need in CD-ROM databases, library
catalogs, and other online systems.
One reason for this confusion is that it's really hard to express our
information needs in words, much less translate those words into a query
language understood by a dumb piece of software (i.e., a search engine).
Another reason is that it's really hard to index the ideas and concepts that
are stored in text (i.e., the stuff we're looking for) in a way that this
dumb software can understand (and therefore find). So when we do a search,
we're asking something much dumber than we are to do something we find hard
to do ourselves.
But at least these older online information systems were fairly narrow in
scope, smaller in size, more homogeneous in content and format, and targeted
more focused audiences. The Web, on the other hand, has a zillion times more
content, covers every known subject under the sun, uses many more formats,
and is used by every imaginable audience. This heterogeneity makes it much
harder to index and harder to search. Because fewer assumptions can be made
about Web users and the kind of content they need, a search engine has an
even trickier time on the Web. So what's hard gets harder.
Hill:
Your professional backgrounds are in the field of information and library
studies. How did you get started working with Web sites?
Morville:
In 1994, before the Web took the world by storm, we were teaching some of
the first academic and commercial courses about the Internet. We both believed
the Internet would become an important medium and that librarians had a great
deal to offer this brave new world of networked information environments.
We helped early adopters understand and use state-of-the-art tools such as
FTP, Gopher, Archie, Veronica, and WAIS. We also designed a number of early
Gopher sites. In retrospect, the limitations of Gophers (purely hierarchical
text-only solutions) were a blessing as well as a curse. They forced us (and
everyone else) to focus on issues of grouping and labeling. Then Mosaic
exploded onto the scene and everyone became distracted by graphic design and
technology issues.
After some experimentation in the full-solution web-site design business, we
realized we wanted to return to our roots and leverage our core competencies
as librarians. However, we didn't have a name for this specialization and
didn't know whether there was a market for these specialized services.
Hill:
Did the concept of information architecture originate in the field of
information studies?
Morville:
It's hard to say where the concept of information architecture
originated, since people have been doing information architecture in one
form or another for centuries. The structure and organization of books,
maps, libraries, museums, and cities are all artifacts, in one sense or
another, of an information-architecture design process.
Rosenfeld:
People have been developing information architectures ever since a stylus
was first applied to a clay tablet. All information systems have an
architecture, planned or otherwise. Books, for example, have sequential,
numbered pagination, move top-to-bottom and left-to-right, use title pages,
tables of contents, and back-of-the-book indices. These are all architectural
conventions that we take for granted. But their acceptance took decades
after Gutenberg's revolution.
Web sites, on the other hand, generally have unplanned, accidental information
architectures. The conventions aren't really there yet, which isn't surprising
given how new the medium is. With all of these information systems,
someone has been functioning as the information architect, consciously
or otherwise. So information architecture is nothing new in practice.
Morville:
The recent explosion in the number and size of networked, digital
information environments has created a need and opportunity for people who
specialize in this field.
Hill:
Did the term information architecture exist when you started?
Rosenfeld:
It did. Richard Saul Wurman coined the term about thirty years ago, and
others since then (including us) have come up with varying definitions of the
term, some quite similar, some not.
Morville:
We first began using the metaphor of building architecture as a way to
explain our focus back in 1994. In 1995, we began writing the "Web Architect"
column for Web
Review magazine. Then, in 1996, Richard Saul Wurman's book
Information Architects caught our eye. At first, we were excited by the
notion that information architecture was becoming mainstream. But when we
read the book, we realized that his definition of information architecture
didn't match ours. He focused on the presentation and layout of information
on a two-dimensional page. We focused on the structure and organization of
sites.
We brashly decided that in our world view, Wurman was really talking about
the digital equivalent of interior design or information design, not
true information architecture. Of course, not everyone would agree.
A healthy and sometimes heated debate over the definition of information
architecture continues to this day. These debates are a good illustration
of the ambiguity of language and of the political and emotional implications
of information architecture design.
Hill:
How has the field developed since your book was published in 1998?
Rosenfeld:
If postings for "Information Architect" on Monsterboard are any
indication, the field is booming. This isn't surprising: Thanks to cheap
and easy-to-use information technologies like the Web, people can create
information much faster than they can ever hope to organize it. It's probably
safe to say that there will always be a greater demand for information
architects than anyone can supply.
As far as what constitutes information architecture itself, we've learned
quite a bit since we did the bulk of our writing back in late 1996 and early
1997. What we did back in those days, and what our book covers, is what we now
call "top-down" information architecture. Top-down architecture is about
creating basic top-level structure and navigation for organizing large bodies
of content, such as entire sites.
The other area of information architecture, as you might imagine, is
"bottom-up" information architecture. Bottom-up information architecture
covers how you can organize content at a much finer level of granularity: not
whole sites, but at the level of individual documents, or, going further, at
the level of content "chunks" that mark-up languages like XML deal with.
Another way to look at this distinction is that top-down architecture is about
determining the right questions to ask (e.g., What are the
major categories that should drive a taxonomy?), while bottom-up architecture
deals with how to organize the answers (e.g., how you structure and classify
actual pieces of content). Of course, all information architectures combine
both top-down and bottom-up approaches to some degree.
How you chunk, link, and classify "atoms" of information from the bottom-up
perspective is something we've not seen many people write about in great
detail. This is surprising, because so much of our consulting these days
fits squarely into this area. What's also surprising is how few information
architects in the field seem prepared to discuss this aspect of information
architecture. Many of them seem stuck in a top-down perspective. This is
why we've started putting together a new edition of our book, which will
cover bottom-up information architecture extensively.
Information architecture involves the design of organization, labeling,
navigation, and searching systems to help people find and manage information
more successfully.
People have been developing information architectures ever since a stylus
was first taken to a clay tablet.
A healthy and sometimes heated debate over the definition of
information architecture continues to this day.